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Poster: light into ashes Date: Apr 20, 2011 5:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry's 'jazz' style, Howard Wales tour, PITB March 72

Those reviews would be interesting to read.

I can understand Garcia not getting into McLaughlin's heavy speed trips. Though I haven't seen that interview, there is the '81 interview with Jackson & Gans where he says he doesn't like the Weather Report/Return to Forever/Al DiMeola school of playing. "Music-school music; not really fun to listen to. I don't know why those guys, with their ability, don't have ensemble improvisation. They're certainly capable of doing it, but they don't for some reason... They all have that thing of rigid solo structures; I don't know why they've chosen to tie themselves to that. I think it really limits the dynamism that's available to them in the music."

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Poster: bkidwell Date: Apr 20, 2011 7:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry's 'jazz' style, Howard Wales tour, PITB March 72

While digging into this topic, I reread that interview (Garcia, David Gans, Blair Jackson April 28, 1981) also. I've always really liked Garcia's commentary because it matches my perception of elaborate virtuoso-progressive fusion jazz - "a lot of fingers, but not enough heart".

"Influence" is a tricky concept. In addition to the traditional idea of influence where a player tries to adopt elements of a style, there can be the opposite; a player can decide they want to differentiate themselves from a style, and deliberately avoid using its elements. Perhaps progressive fusion served as a negative example to Garcia, showing that a virtuoso technique and complex composition should never pursued to the exclusion of simple melody and emotional expression.

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Poster: jgmf Date: Apr 27, 2011 2:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry's 'jazz' style, Howard Wales tour, PITB March 72

I'd agree with that. Not that Garcia needed any persuading about that by 1972, mind you. I think in his "hard core bluegrass" period he persuaded himself that he could get his fingers to do just about anything you might program them to do, but he found that sort of programmed playing to ultimately be a dead end. Or a Dead end, or a Dead End, or whatever. Thank goodness he learned that early, and spent the next 30 years striving to play feelings rather than notes.

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Poster: jgmf Date: Apr 20, 2011 5:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry's 'jazz' style, Howard Wales tour, PITB March 72

That sounds familiar and is probably the quote I was thinking of. I thought there was something harsher from an earlier interview, but now I am not sure.